A Tantric Desire For Pleasure

Question: Does a Tantric experience a desire for pleasure?

Pleasure in an ambiguous word, because it’s meaning is determined by the experience of the interpreter. (“The Observer Gets To Decide,” is the mantra of the famous Schrodinger’s Cat thought experiment.)

That said,I couldn’t be less interested in having sex.

I have a desire for the pleasure associated with sex but a greater desire not to have sex.

Sex, from a Tantra perspective, is an expression of unity between individual vessels of Brahman (represented by Self/Atman). This is the greatest purpose of sex, anything less is like attempting to solve complex algebra with-at best-grade school math and-at worst- kindergarten level concepts of math (2 shoes and 1 mouth).

If pleasure is your greatest concern (Animal level |basement) you shouldn’t be having sex with another person’s experience.

Sex is a precursor to drama because sex blows the lid off of repressed emotion. Drama associated with (yours or partners) emotion (Human level |ground floor) will distract you from the awareness coming to the surface as a result of the sexual experience. You will become aware of emotion (ego/reaction) instead of awareness (Self/response).

Awareness coming to the surface is the spiritual function of sex (Warrior |1st floor).

There is no reason to involve incompatible person(s) in your deeply personal journey; a journey into the heart of your individuation process. (Divine|Attic – the Tantric concept of pleasure)

You may believe god/dess (Self) knows your heart, though in saying this, you assume you (ego) are aware of its contents, as well. Individuation is the process of confronting the vulnerabilities hidden in your heart as a result of habitual guilt and denial. These vulnerabilities cluster together and form belief systems (complex’s). When we allow another person to fill the void created by complex/vulnerabilities, we are denying the opportunity to confront and remove the void. Soon, we lose all memory of the void until some unanticipated condition brings the memory to surface. We are, then, consumed by intense guilt for not having “seen” the vulnerability earlier, when we may have avoided suffering. How many times have you mused, “I should have known better?”

Tantric sex can only be experienced by individuals with similar intention and developmental compatability, which is rare.

Confidence| Arrogance

There was once an old man who was so frail that he shuffled his feet and called this walking. He forbade everyone-even his wife-from offering him assistance. As a result, people lived in expectation of his fall.

The Transcendent Function (Jung) is the process whereby we transcend the most crucial problems of life after confronting our conscious inability to solve them.

As ego learns, ego becomes confident.

In the Kaballah tradion, Ego is the “fallen angel,” the devil of the Christian tradition.

It is wise to remember that ego has an important role in psyche, as ego translates experience for Self. To remove or destroy ego would amount to an inability to function in society. This can really only “work” for those in a monastic tradition, hospitalized, or imprisoned, where basic needs are met and supervision ensures safety.

When confidence becomes arrogance, the result is pride. Pride lets us know that we are trusting in ego instead of Self/Atman. From the Vedas, we know that Atman (Self) is Brahman (Nature/Universal Mind/Collective Consciousness). Brahman is omnipresent (can be in multiple places) in the same way that coffee and electricity are. It’s the properties of Brahman that make up Atman/Self.

Life has unfolded to allow Nature/Brahman/Self to experience themselves. This is the “point” of life. Difficulty and obstacles are neccesary for wisdom and spiritual growth. Suffering, on the other hand, is optional.

As ego develops confidence, we learn. When ego develops arrogance, we suffer.

Pride is an obstacle to awareness because it recognizes ego above Self in the hierarchy of psyche. By resisting or denying that we (ego) are not in control, confidence becomes arrogance, and we invite conditions designed to “humble” us and restore the hierarchy/harmony of psyche.

We may recognize this process within the symbols of Biblical tradition, where “God” is Atman/Self and ego is the devil/”fallen one.” The Bible, like all mythology, is a coded reference to psyche. The Vedas are the master key. As such, if one searches for references to pride (in the Bible) one will discover confirmation of the Vedic system, in general, and specifically with reference to restoring harmony with God/Natural law/Psyche hierarchy.

Modernism rejects traditional meanings, forms or techniques in order to create new order to replace the old; Postmodernism combines the traditional and the new in order to pursue the odd or interesting. ~TheVerySoil, Jed A Blue

In Harmony With Natural Law: A Template


The Psychological Types (PT) associated with the two poles of psyche are classic Vedanta interpretations. Within this system, a specific type of Yoga corresponds with each PT. The chart above also includes the Jungian (J) equivalent of Vedanta Psychological types.

Perceiving and Judging are the two methods by which psyche discriminates information.

Active (sensation) and Meditative (intuition) are perceiving functions, while Intellectual (thinking) and Emotional (feeling) are judging functions.

Attitude Awareness may be considered the predominant mental attitude needed to maintain a healthy awareness of the respective PT function.

“Personal Responsibility” refers to an ongoing and consistent awareness that our thoughts and choices matter. Our choice to respond instead of react to the conditions of life is our greatest expression of freewill.

“Grass is Greener” refers to an ongoing and consistent awareness that the grass is greenest right here, right now, because this is where you are. While it is important to have goals, we must be diligent not to overlook what we can think and must do in the present.

“Object of Thought” refers to an ongoing and consistent awareness that what we think about affects our perception of conditions we encounter.

“Gratitude” refers to an ongoing and consistent appreciation for the conditions unfolding in our life, trusting that nature is perpetually working towards becoming conscious of itself.

Nature/Brahman (Universal Mind) exists within each individual as Atman (Self), a threefold personality that may be supported by Willpower, Mindfulness, and Ritual.

Willpower is the muscle of freewill. Like all muscles, it must be used or it will atrophy.

There is no meditation without mindfulness. Emotion without mindfulness is ego manipulation.

Ritual is the active cultivation of discipline. Habit is passive & compliant resignation. There is no meaningful ritual without willpower inspired mindfulness.

Together, Willpower, Mindfulness, and Ritual are the three qualities of behavior that identify if an individual is in harmony with natural law.


You may think of the four psychological types in a kind of rank. Along the Judging axis, Superior (top) and Inferior (bottom). Along the Perceiving axis, 2nd Superior (left) and 2nd Inferior (right). Your superior function may be feeling, not thinking, and thus, you would place that at the top. You may also need to adjust the poles of the perceiving axis to your own experience. Further, you may also want to determine wether you are an introvert or an extrovert.

For further reading on Psychological Types, I recommend Lectures on Jung’s Typology


6.20-23~ Sickness May Be Eliminated

(6.20) Sickness may be eliminated by placing ourselves in harmony with natural law, which is omniscient.

(3.4) The solar plexus is the central point of distribution for energy which the body is constantly generating.

(3.5) This distribution may be interrupted by resistant, critical, discordant thought, but especially by fear.

(3.5) The result of this disruption is every ill which the human race has been afflicted.

Placing ourselves in harmony with natural law is a recognition that our physical, emotional, spiritual and mental well being must reinforce each other.

(6.21) Man in a spiritual being and this spirit must, necessarily, be perfect.

It is due to neglect of spiritual awareness (the importance of recognizing that our thoughts are a catalyst to manifest perception/reality) that we become fixated on nurturing less than our complete four-fold being.

(6.22) A conscious recognition of this perfection–first mentally then emotionally–results in a manifestation of this perfection.

When theoretical knowledge becomes applied knowledge, our perception/reality changes.



6.24-26~ The Law Of Vibration

(6.24) Thought is spiritual and therefore creative and correlates with it’s object and brings it into manifestation.

We’ve all heard the familiar saying, “Be careful what you wish for.” Typically, the “moral” communicated in this saying is that if we our wishes were to be granted, they would not solve our problems. While this is true, there is much more to this wise saying.

There was once a young man who was very depressed because he was smitten with a local women whose family had arranged for her to marry his best friend. He wandered into the surrounding hills and was prepared to throw himself into the ravine when he came across a guru who was deep in meditation. As the young man cared nothing for his life, he thought nothing of interrupting the guru. 

“Why does the universe conspire against me?” the young man asked.

The guru continued meditating, and the young man continued to ask the guru, again and again. he began kicking dust at the guru and shouting his question. 

“You think the universe conspires against you because it does not do what you want? Foolish man. Your wish has been granted. Go and leave me in peace.”

The young man was ecstatic and returned to the village feeling as though his life had been given back to him. As he entered the village, there was great wailing and mourning. As it turns out, a lion had killed his best friend while he was hunting. Now the young man was free to marry the object of his desire.  He hadn’t wanted his friend to die, though. That was unfortunate, but he had his wish.

After the marriage, life grew very complicated. His new wife did not fit in very well with his family, nor he with hers. Their first three children died in childbirth and eventually his wife cheated on him. 

In less than five years, the young man was back in the hills, prepared to throw himself in the ravine when he spotted the old guru, still in meditation.

He approached the old man.

“Why has the universe conspired against me?’ he asked.

This time, the old man guru spoke without hesitation, “The universe had a plan. You didn’t like it, so it granted your wish, and you still don’t like it.  As long as you consider a conspiracy anything you do not desire, you will always be miserable.”

(2.20) Thought will correlate with its object and bring it into manifestation because thought is a product of the spiritual man and spirit is the creative principle of the universe. 

(6.25) The Law of Vibration is the Natural law brought into operation by this activity.

(4.17) …All natural laws are invincible, unchangeable, and act with mathematical certitude – without deviation or variation.

(6.26) A higher rate of vibration governs, controls, changes or destroys a lower rate of vibration.

Higher means harder. The atoms that vibrate to form the table that keep your computer from falling are vibrating very fast. The atoms in paper that allow you to tear it in two are vibrating very slow. If you want to put you hand through a desk as easily as you rip the paper, you need to develop a higher rate of vibration that the atoms holding together the table.

The ability to concentrate is facilitated by rapid vibration. When you are watching TV otherwise susceptible to hypnotism, your mind is vibrating slowly – thoughts are scattered and you are easily led around by whatever catches your attention from moment to moment.


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6.28-30~ Unlimited Power

(6.28) For the first time in the worlds history, mankind’s highest reasoning faculty can be satisfied by demonstrable truth, which is fast flooding the world.

Mankind’s highest reasoning faculty is consciousness: the process of ego translating experience to Self. This process is demonstrable by observation (individuation/inquiry) and participating (thinking), which results in Self Realization. 

(6.29) This system will meet every human requirement or necessity. 

This system will meet every human requirement or necessity because Universal Mind is omniscient; it is a vast storehouse of unlimited power.

(6.30) True science and true religion are twin sisters. Where the one goes, the other, necessarily, follows. 

True science may be understood as observation. True religion may be understood as participation. Anything beyond observation and participation is-at best-commentary and at worst, rhetoric.


6.27-29~ Infinite, limitless power

(6.27) Millions of people make use of mental therapeutics.

Mental therapeutics is a practical understanding that thought is the cause and conditions are the effect.

(6.28) For the first time in the world history, mankind’s highest reasoning faculty can be satisfied by demonstrable truth which is now fast flooding the world.

Cause and effect is observable.

(6.29) This system will meet every human requirement or necessity.

Utilizing cause and effect puts us in touch with infinite, limitless power.


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6.21-23~ Feeling Empowers

(6.21) Sickness may be eliminated by placing ourselves in harmony with Natural Law.

We place ourselves in harmony with natural law by realizing that each individual is an outlet of Universal Power, which originates in Universal Mind. Practically, this means that all consciousness is recognized as originating from Self/Universal Mind, and all distinctions and prejudices are a result of ego identity. In addition, we understand that all experience is manifested by the Universal to facilitate collective Self Realization.

(6.22) Man is a spiritual being and this spirit must, necessarily, be perfect.

Thought is creative power and makes our species spiritual.

(6.23) A knowledge of this perfection-first intellectually, then emotionally-results in a manifestation of this perfection.

We may understand this perfection, first, intellectually. This is beyond a theoretical understanding because one can not really know something theoretically, they can only understand a concept. An intellectual understanding, necessarily, requires some kind of first hand observation/experience-be that in a lab, by crunching numbers, or encountering conditions in life. Once we have experienced something, we are able to feel an emotion regarding our experience. Feeling empowers experience and infuses it with value and meaning.


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5.26.27~ Do Your Own Thinking

(5.26) We may eliminate imperfect conditions by becoming conscious of our unity with the source of all power.

The source of all power in Universal Mind.

(5.27) The Master Mind thinks big thoughts. He holds ideas large enough to counteract or destroy all petty and annoying obstacles.

You may think of the Master Mind as Nietzsche’s Ubermensch, or Overman. One who does their own thinking.

(7.26) The great majority remain docile and willing tools of the few because they allow the few to do their thinking for them. 


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5.24.25~ Food for Thought

(5.24) We may connect with omniscience by our ability to think, which is our ability to act upon the Universal Energy, and what we think is produced or created in the objective world.

Omniscience is limitless power. Our ability to think is our ability to access, utilize, and depend upon limitless power. Limitless Power is Universal Energy, which is one form of Universal Mind. If Universal Mind is the sun, Universal Energy is the heat that radiates from the sun. As we know from observation, without the heat that radiates from the sun, life–in it’s present forms–would not exist in our galaxy. Likewise, the energy that radiates/vibrates from the sun of our body (solar plexus) determines the quality of “life” that we experience. Food is a great example.

(3.30) the Universal is static and requires energy to start it in motion. This is furnished by food which is converted into energy which–in turn–allows the individual to think. When he stops eating, he stops thinking. Then he no longer acts upon the universal. There is, consequently, no action or interaction. The Universal is pure mind in static form; mind at rest. 

Fasting has traditionally been a means to exercise willpower over the body while “descending” into the Self. I am neither endorsing or condemning this practice, only pointing out what it is because many people don’t understand the actual purpose of fasting, regardless of their intention. Some people fast because they think it makes them healthier. Maybe this is true and maybe it is not, but what is certain is that fasting 1) Supports Willpower (consciousness) 2) Leads us into the Unconscious. The key is finding the right balance. More specifically, it is important to know that our actions are not conflicting with our desired outcome. To become absorbed in the unconscious is not going to help you much if you have an important business meeting, because you will hardly be able to function at a cognitive level necessary to exude confidence in others. Conversely, engaging your mind in memory recall will not facilitate a state of no mind you may be wanting to achieve during your meditation. Looking at the Ego|Self axis, we may consider Ego representative of consciousness and Self representative of the Unconscious. Self Realization is the energy that radiates from the Ego|Self axis; it is a result of the polarity between these two extremes.


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(5.25) The result of this discovery is nothing less than marvelous. It opens unprecedented and limitless opportunity.


Awareness that thought puts us in touch with infinite power creates unprecedented and limitless opportunity. How good is an appliance if you do not plug it in? Your mind is like an appliance, and if you do not plug it into Universal Energy, then it’s usefulness will be limited to rumination based on sensory experience. This is a method of existence may be compared to those who live as though asleep. They are asleep only in the sense that they are unaware of the potential they have to plug the mind into the source of power it requires.

Ruminating mind still produces thought, just as eating GMO and pesticide filled foods will still provide the energy we require to think. The difference is in quality. A freshly prepared meal in a restaurant offers a different quality than 49 cent hamburgers at a local fast food chain. And the quality of our food determines the quality of our thought.